Stock Trading Robot Scams – Doubling Your Stocks? Yeah Right!
Posted on April 21st, 2008 by Jim under Scam Alert
You’ve heard the stories… “two geeks create revolutionary stock trading system” or “former investment banker makes millions off legal investing program.” Folks, the stock trading robot programs lurking on the internet are the biggest scams in the industry. These websites typically rely on the whole “white lie” advertising schemes to have you thinking that you are coming across a quasi-legal advanced technology that nobody else has… all you are getting is a smack in the face, and here’s why!
The first thing about these websites that should set you off is the obvious “getting rich off the stock market” ploy. Anyone who is proposing “$3,500,000,000+ profit” and/or “average 102% increases” from trading stocks is taking you for a ride. In fact, anyone who says you’ll be earning over 20% profit from the stock market is a liar.
Case in point, all these programs do is feed you worthless penny stocks. What is a penny stock? Basically a non-company that has issued some cheap form of stock to raise capital. If you own MSFT (Microsoft) at $30.42 a share, then if the shares trade up, lets say $0.50… you make a 1.64% gain on the day. However, if
you buy one of these ultra high-risk penny stocks from the stock trading robot for $0.20 per share, you would make 250% profit in just one day! Fantastic.
I think not!
There’s a reason that these websites typically never mention downside, not once, on the entire front page. There’s a reason that the professionals, and heck, even educated amateurs, don’t waste their money in penny stocks. There is going to be almost NO news for this stock, NO research to base things on, and NO history to look back on. You can’t compare penny stocks to get an attractive valuation, all you have is random guessing and speculation. You might get lucky and see 100% profit on a day, but you are more likely to lose it all with a huge -300% profit than anything else.
The crooks at these stock trading robot websites try to pass this “software” off as being worth $28,000 per license. I beg to differ. In fact, my friend over at Trainee Trader researched the coding of one of these
programs and found it wasn’t a program at all. The program in question just fetched a preloaded pick from a server once a day, pretending to do work along the way. I have never seen one of these programs that has actually done “work”… and I’ve tried them all. What you typically have is a progress bar that pretends to make progress, while all it is going to do is pump back the one stock that’s already been pre-loaded by the criminals taking your money in the first place. No math, no complex algorithm, nothing! You are simply paying for a dud.
You’ll often see some charts thrown up on these stock trading robot scam pages, trying to get you to believe they have made some sort of achievement in technical analysis. Here’s some news for you, they haven’t. Technical analysis has been around for years, and is especially unreliable on penny stocks. You can’t judge a trend when stocks boom and bust day after day, sometimes completely random!
These scam websites make me angry every time I see an advertisement for them, which is far too often. You simply can’t win if you are playing the market with penny stocks… its not going to happen. They talk about their “operations” where they are analyzing
all of these risky stocks and actually finding something special. What jerks! Throw a couple of “technical analysis” graphs up, and these things actually look legitimate.
Now on to the worst part by far. The “success” stories.
This is pretty much all they are, stories. I am going to be maybe the first to do this, but I think the guys operating the various robot-trading scam sites are paying off people to make these videos claiming things work. Every video is so rehearsed, they never sound real. Nobody is going to make a serious claim that these programs have helped, they just talk about reaping insane profits without mention of their losses… which by simple mathematics should occur more often than profits.
Don’t buy into this crafty, sneaky, suspicious or whatever you want to call it “software.” These scams typically operate by making you purchase their $30, $40 or $50 software, which they make sound like a bargain by throwing out a random multi-thousand dollar “retail value.”Then they will smack you with a newsletter or subscription fee to get more picks every day. You don’t need any of that garbage. Getting your hopes up that you can beat the system, which is essentially run by the big dogs on Wall Street, is foolish.
The famed “stock trading robots” are scams. Believe it. The fact that people are advertising the heck out of these programs to try and make a quick dime off of your false hope doesn’t make it any better.
Bottom Line: You can’t make money on the stock market in excess of 20% with any degree of reliability… its just not going to happen. The stock trading robot programs on the internet are some of the biggest scams in the business, and have made a lot of people rich off others’ misfortune. Don’t be a fool, and stay bullish on the net!
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Good post, Trainee Trader also posted something about this. Google shouldn’t allow these scam sites to advertise on adsense…
I see their ad everywhere too!
Yup, I did mention Trainee Trader in this since he did the work on breaking the coding behind this fake program. He actually removed the article that was on his blog, so I couldn’t link there. Hey maybe they will pay me off to delete this post too
You see these types of programs all over the internet – people don’t stop to think that if there was truly something that worked that great, everyone would be using it or it would be illegal. It’s same with those “Work from home” scams such as data entry. From what I’ve heard, they charge you $50 for links to the Adsense signup page and some referral programs.
Thanks for putting this out there, hopefully it will stop at least one person from buying into dud software
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It’s good that you are spreading the word about these scams. There was a really comprehensive analysis of them (particularly the one from DoublingStocks) in a forum at Zecco.com that said NO ONE should trust these things, of course, and found that some of the more honest sites actually tell you that companies will pay them to pump the stocks. So basically, they buy, THEN send out the email, then everyone who buys pumps it up a little more, then the scammers sell their positions. They are typically the only ones to make out from any of their own recommendations.
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Yeah, this is a pure pump n dump scam. I disassembled the code, found the DB connections and looked at the data it was pulling from. There’s only two tables – foundstock and stock. foundstock contains only 16 rows and the last update that it had was for 4/16. I guess these guys haven’t made any deals with anyone to pump their stocks for them lately.
The rest of the code just loops and loops like it’s doing something, then just dumps the row that matches the date the thing was run and thows that out to ya. If it doesn’t find anything, it just says something like no potential trades.
PURE WASTE OF MONEY!!!
an old scam for people who bet on Baseball/NFL games that are betable was to get a free pick then if right you might buy/subscribe…. if you lost you get another pick… etc… eventually you have some people getting 2-3 picks in a row right and they subscibe.
The way it worked was 1/2 got team A the other half got team B! so 1/2 already got a winner and 1/2 that would have 2 winners in a row! 1/2 of that would have 3 winners in a row and maybe one was an upset! They became subscribers… if 5000 hits reply then 2500 get 1 win… 1250 get 2 wins 625 might subscribe and likely atleast 310 will! at whatever $$$ they charge.
I printed for a guy doing this for years…. he paid me a lot of $$$ and he made huge money! All a SCAM…. these could run the same way easily!
be careful. look for sites that post their picks in am and check how they do. Darn few I’ve found and they really sucked. It isnt easy beating the market but there is a collegiate challenge sponsored by IB brokerage and the guys winning have to use a robot to play… the winner each year is astronomical…. this year the winner turned 1 mill into 3+ mill in 2 months! with a robot!
Just FYI
I can’t stand these scam sites and programs. It’s ridiculous to think that some “system” will provide such lucrative returns.
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There’s good reason for these programs being all over the net – people are inherently greedy and keep on paying for the promises of getting rich without doing any work.
For a scam such as this one I would suggest they get what they deserve!
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I’ve not use this program myself however I have a friend that has been trialling it. He says he is up at the minute as a result of thier tips. However one theory I have heard is that it actually works because there are so many people registered and buying the stocks as a result of the newsletter that the markets move as a result. In effect then the tips are kind of self fulfilling.
I’ll post back in a couple of months how my friend gets on. Personally i’ll stick to my bread and butter…shorting theUSD!!!
Hi please fill me in on the stock market software.
Am planing on buying one!
Best Regards,
Felix
Go buy to your multi-level marketing site you moron.
The people that get involved in this kind of scams (stockrobots etc) are a joke.
@ Doubling Stocks: If you honestly think that a bunch of subscribers investing $1k in some penny stocks can honestly justify a movement in the stock price, you are going to be burned when any major hedge fund toys you around. I’ve seen hedge funds artificially create short squeezes on mid-cap stocks on a daily basis… knowing this, they could completely manipulate trading on any small cap, much less a pink sheet.
I doubt seriously they have subscribers in the millions of people.
More likely some thousands at best. There is no way they are going to tip any scales in their favor…..get real!
I personally work as an affiliate on Clickbank. OK? They show return rates on their advertisers. Guess what? Doubling Stocks 8 week money back return shows below average returns made. These numbers on Clickbank are verifiable. That is a lot more than I can say of the comments made here.
There are penny stocks that you can make money with. I used to trade penny stocks and have made $500 to 1200 in three to four weeks. If you want to talk about stocks that have nothing backing it why not look at Google or any other company on the internet that does not actually provide a product. It is preceived value.
Great post Jim, you have walked the fine line between informing your readers and not getting sued. What annoys me even more about these scammers is there use of legal action to try and silence people who speak out against them. I know of two people who have received take down notices from them. If only I had the money to fight them I would have kept my post online about dodgey stock robots.
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Nowadays scam websites are going on doubling.even vey great and popular sites are scam.Its not at all safe for internet
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what about FOREX robots? Don’t the pro traders use automated trading in FOREX markets?
Good show. Thanks.
Doubling Stocks is a scam. They take your money, send out worthless E-mails that mean nothing{ mostly patting themselves on the back]. They have no customer service, if they do they are too busy serving themselves rather than customers. Most of all just try to get your money back. Good Luck. Now if they did this to me how many others have they ripped off. They are guilty of a Federal Offence. With enough plaintiffs, the Federal Government would have to investigate. Any takers? Brian
Brian? Do you know who Clickbank is? If you did you would quit saying what you say. Doubling stocks has a very low return rate as verifiable by Clickbank. They have been using Clickbank thru their affiliates for over two years. I can guarantee you if one word you said was true theyd be shut down by them. Why dont you send me a list of all the others besides you who have been ripped off.
Since I am a member of Clickbank I will take your issue to them OK? WE DONT NEED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AT ALL.. TO DISCREDIT THEM OR YOU DO WE?
While there are always dissatisfied customers with any product, for various reason, that many times have more to do with the person than the product.
What I find puzzling about your review and claims is that they are not founded on use of the product. So you are doing people a dis-service, unless you can validate your claims against the many happy money making clients. The fact that the refunds on clickbank are very low, speaks way more volume than your assertions. They simply have not survived this long unless they are delivering profitable results. With the product having a 60 day money back guarantee people are able to make the best judgment themselves without risk.
sorry Garry, but the fact that you mentioned they use ClickBank speaks for itself. If they do and you really work there, you wouldnt be allowed to reveal such a professional secret. As a matter of fact, you have been paid by them to post those comments here……..
and Stock Money Maker who the hell are you ? If they survived this long is because there is so many people willing to give it a try and dont botter to go through the complicated and exausting refunding process
Dont get fooled by this crook people!
hi,
i am glad i found this review , i dont know anything about the stock market and never have. but i thought this was too good to be true. maybe i first thought this is going to get me out of my dead end factory job. but i suppose i still have a job i guess.
but at least it has saved my money yet again. i guess it takes a few minutes to an hour of google time to find the crap on these things.
thanks for the review.
You actually don’t need to do much more than just read the comments from defenders to know something is up. If it were truly a working bot that picked stock via technical analysis at a much higher rate than informed traders can (which is the essence of the claims of DoublingStocks on their website) then there would be no comments from defenders at all.
If the bot worked, you would quietly go about making your cash. The more people use the bot, the less opportunity there would be to get in on the picked stocks. Trading is in many ways all about predicting mob behaviour. You don’t join the mob; you anticipate it.
So, you would not be encouraging others to buy. You would be hoping others didn’t buy, actually.
Secondly, the kind of data that Marl claims to analyse is only available from limited, proprietary sources; the stock markets themselves. They make you pay for a subscription; you, me, Citibank, Yahoo Finance, everyone. Yet, somehow, people believe that Marl manages to do the analysis in a vacuum … no subscription, no market data streaming to your machine, nothing.
Which sums it all up … there is nothing to see here.
Don’t waste your money, $47 for a subscription letter .. still waiting for the letter … $97 for the stock trading robot … more than 2 months running the program and nothing!!!! 2009
Hello, I was wondering if there’s anyone who has had success with http://www.daytradingrobot.com
I would like to see hard proof. I am willing to compensate them with some money after I have made profits with daytradingrobot.com
Otherwise, if you would just like to be kind and get me in on some information, please let me know.
Thanks.
Sri
Sri,
I’m testing this product also. But don’t but the robot itself because it doesn’t really scan for any stock pick of the day, it is just a graphical chart that is created based on yahoo finance research and you would have gotten the same info if you did yahoo research yourself on those stock that you would put on the watch list. And also there is no beeping or alerting of any kind for your stock watch list, much less promising you a pick that you yourself can do better by speculating.
Regards,
Saleen
For Sri and everyone,
I’m not sure if the daytradingrobot is legitimate either because I bought both their subscription and the beta tester portion of the program but I have not had an email of their stock pick yet two weeks now. Also I just wanted my $ 197.00 refund only from the beta tester part of the program which I did not think is worth a buck due to it being nothing more than just a hostorical graphical data that recommends whether to buy, hold, or sell on next market opening which I can get better quessing using yahoo finance or my scottrade account research. A week so far they have not responded to my refund email yet after giving them my proof of purchase receipt that they or “Jason” requested. So Sri, I almost thinking that daytradingrobot is a scam also.
Keep me posted too if anyone elses know.
Thanks
Saleen
Great post. Another robot that has come to ligth has been the commission robot, which automatically selects products from clickbank, promotes them and collects commissions for the owner of the supposed robot. You have programmes like day trader robots and all that being promoted by people who don’t have a clue about them.
This is where the internet is failing, too many scams, it’s a haven for crooks. It’s frustrating for people who are genuinely looking for ways to earn money on the internet. When I don’t see company details, addresses and phone numbers, I usually click X.
daytraderrobot.com actually does give a phone number and a physical address. Thing is, I’m from the area where the physical address is….. and, well….. good luck finding it anywhere near the address they give. It’s actually a row of warehouses in a very industrial, filthy part of town. Stay Away from this SCAM!!!
The scam claims on this site are without merit. Proof of the system from the latest email from the owners of doubling stock:
Subject: Make a Boatload of Cash Promoting DayTradingRobot (here’s how…)
On Monday, the 18th of May
DayTradingRobot will be
releasing it’s first stock pick
in months.
This stock pick is a little known
company, that is a ’sheep in
wolves clothing’.
In fact, I’m so confident this
stock will triple during the
week of the 18th… That I
declared to my list I would:
“Retire, if this stock didn’t
triple in price”.
Well here’s the catcher, their newsletter was supposed to be around every 2 weeks they will send one pick from their robot to subscriber, but apparently, they haven’t sent one at least 6 MONTHS ago because THEY WERE LOOKING AND NEGOTIATING FOR A COMPANY THAT IS WILLING TO COMPENSATE THEM FOR A FEE and pretending that is what their so called robot had picked. Was the robot supposed to be able to pick at least one daily? Wasn’t the $97 subscription was for around every 2 weeks pick and not 6 months? Suspicion: Michael Cohen from doublingstocks.com sends the same alert watch with the exact same script as Jason Kelly for the upcoming stock in, again, 6 months (when it is supposed to be 2 weeks). And Jason Kelly will sent it one day after Michael Cohen on that same stock pick. Hmmmm. So is this the work of a robot? OR the work of a promotion of a company for return of a compensation like most free penny stock newsletters which I had to admit that I do have positivie results with them and for even bigger gain than what this robot can claim.
Oh, yeah, when I sent my proof of purchase to their supposed physical address in Miami over a week ago, I had just received it back from the post office with a Return To Sender for a none forwardable address. Gotcha, scammer!!!!
How comes I am just hearing about this that the the day trading robot is a scam. I signed up because they assured me that click bank would refund moneys if I am not satisfied. Also they promised to give eight weeks of trial. Is this not true? Did any body try to get a refund and not get it?
Have you not been paying attention all stock picking programs are a scam especially if they contain the words robot or double and as for clickbank they are probably the biggest supporter of scams on the internet. You people need to wake up. Stop letting people rip you off your not going to get rich quick unless you are a good salesman, invent something yourself, win the lottery, inherit the money, or work extremely hard and be at the right place at the right time and that includes trading stocks.
And lets not forget that if this stock trading robot was real it would be all over the news especially cnbc. The pond scum thrives on the idoicy of the internet. which are you. If you want to make real money on stocks watch the news and do your reseach or invest in a broker that will do it for you.
Thanks ALL for the posts. I almost fell for it.
http://www.daytradingrobot.com/looking-for-robot-testers.php
Surely there IS a software out there that truly analyzes data and make appropriate “suggestions” accordingly – ANYone ever looked at http://esignal.com/ – a bit pricey – post comments please of any experience. Happy trading to all.
I love the way some some of these Robot Trading ads talk about how this product was already written up in the Wall Street Journal and Business Week, but never link to it. EVER!! You’d think that if BW or the WSJ actually wrote anything positive about your product that you’d be dying to link to it, no? I searched and all I can find are other pseudo “articles” (like this one http://investments.consumeronlinereports.com/day-trading-robot-review/ ) which, once again, claim that the Wall Street Journal and Business Week already did articles about the Stock Trading Robot but, again, no link showing where those articles are.
Suspicious..
My favorite is the one where hte guy actually shows a video of the pick his “robot” made and makes 11k in 24 hours off some .13/share telecom penny stock. He then goes on to explain that his robot is worth $128k for a license. Since the ad was soooooo long (a suspicious attribute of any product on the web) I never did waste enpugh time to see what they were selling it for. Bottom line – if I had a robot that could make me 11k every 24 hours on 13 cent a share penny stocks – I wouldn’t tell a soul . . .
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There is nothing worng with penny stock trading, if you are careful and know what you are doing. The thing is, most people who get into penny stocks don’t know, and can be sold by any scam artisit telling them they will make thousands of dollars in a few days. These people don’t have thousands of dollars to invest, some don’t have hundreds of dollars to invest, so it is not possible. However, if you’re carefull like me, and only buy into a penny stock that is garunteed to go up, you will be just fine. I have made a lot of money that way, but even still it takes weeks even months before you can turn a few hundred dollars into a few thousand. I’m not waiting until I’m old and gray to cash in on my large caps, so for a little fun money i play with penny stocks, also good newsletters are the ones that are free, these come from real investors who don’t need the money they just want to help you out.
Hi. I guess I was one of those people who wanted to buy the program, but there was one thing that stopped me from doing this and you can spot this on the video. The guy buys over 15000 shares of the stock called TLLE (or something like that) and the next day, he sells 1450 stocks. So, is there something I don’t get? Robot told you to buy the stock, it tripled over 24 hours and then you sell 10% of it? Why are you keeping the rest? Hoping it would take off like Microsoft and you will be sitting on the gold mine?
And I almost bought it, was too close from it. Good thing I didn’t!!!!!
Just watch and read carefully and you can find the scam in advertizing.
Hello everyone,,,,I’m new to pennystock investing however, I subscribed to only the free newsletters ie:Penny Sleuth….I made $80.00 just simply by doing homework and educating myself on exactly “how” to play the pennystock market….problem is,,,no one wants to do any homework these days,,,,everyone wants something for nothing,,,,if this robot daytrader actually sends you a recommendation,,,ok,,,then do your homework on it and make a decision….whether or not to buy,,,bottom line….thanks,,,,Brand New Penny Stock Trader!!!!!
Has Any one tryed the Fap Turbo?? at http://www.Fabturbo.com Just wondering
I’ve been getting the doublingstocks newsletter since the very beginning and I’ve made money with every pick. How successful you are obviously depends on how quickly you buy and how long you hold onto it. If you look at the charts and the numbers you can see that. I’m a college student so I’m not trading to support myself or anything, more of a learning experience I suppose. But I’ve been super happy with what I’ve made. Seriously. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.
I do not what is worse. The scammer selling this crap or the people who buy and believe it!
OH B*S*! Paid scammer! Dane you p***
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I’ve been getting the doublingstocks newsletter since the very beginning and I’ve made money with every pick. How successful you are obviously depends on how quickly you buy and how long you hold onto it. If you look at the charts and the numbers you can see that. I’m a college student so I’m not trading to support myself or anything, more of a learning experience I suppose. But I’ve been super happy with what I’ve made. Seriously. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.
Guys…people are not selling sucessful robots…
20% p.a……you can do a bit better than that. 25% -30% p.a safely. NOT ROBOT, penny stock crap!